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mikehende
07-25-2008, 10:47 AM
I cannot remember, does Windows 98 have a repair install option? Friend of mine has an old laptop and she says it missing a driver so it can't go on the net by wireless methods therefore I would like to reinstall the OS using the repair install option if it has one?

TonyDi
07-25-2008, 10:50 AM
Don't believe 98 had a repair option. You could do a clean install or install over the old OS.

mikehende
07-25-2008, 11:18 AM
Yeah but she will lose the programs on the laptop for which she does not have the cd's anymore which is why I am looking into the repair option.

steveie85
07-25-2008, 11:21 AM
Is there away you could back up the drive? Maybe using an external drive or something?

mikehende
07-25-2008, 11:24 AM
It's not "files" she has to back up but rather applications, I tried cloning drives a few years back but some of the programs did not work without re-licensing.

Guest11
07-25-2008, 11:28 AM
It's not "files" she has to back up but rather applications, I tried cloning drives a few years back but some of the programs did not work without re-licensing.

Installing over the top will not affect data or applications, only as I remember version of IE. I think ME changed IE version and removed many Windows Updates also. I know this doesn't sound good and would not work on newer OS but in many cases I installed ME to repair 98, believe it or no!

mikehende
07-25-2008, 11:49 AM
I don't understand what you mean by "installing over the top" Rich? You mean reinstall the OS "without" reformatting the drive or choose the "quick" format option?

Guest11
07-25-2008, 11:58 AM
I don't understand what you mean by "installing over the top" Rich? You mean reinstall the OS "without" reformatting the drive or choose the "quick" format option?

No, no format simply reinstall over the top in Windows98, something you cannot do in XP or Windows 2000.

steveie85
07-25-2008, 12:13 PM
Basically Rich means overwrite the Windows 98 system files. I think thats what he means!

compusimple
07-25-2008, 12:20 PM
Mike- sounds to me like you are missing the driver for the network card. Quite common in W98. Same card will probably be automatically recognized in xp without need for separate driver install.

Elliott

mikehende
07-25-2008, 12:26 PM
ok guys, I can use your URGENT help here PLEASE with this other problem, can you guys take a look and I'll come back here soon?

http://www.kickenhardware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14216&page=4

mikehende
07-25-2008, 02:28 PM
No, no format simply reinstall over the top in Windows98,

Are you saying that if you reinstall the OS, all of the programs she has on her HDD right now will still be there?

Guest11
07-25-2008, 03:37 PM
Are you saying that if you reinstall the OS, all of the programs she has on her HDD right now will still be there?

Yes providing you install over Windows98 there and do not delete partition and refomat.

mikehende
07-25-2008, 03:49 PM
ok thanks, I will attempt to reinstall the OS on here system tomorrow and get back to you.

Anon B
07-25-2008, 04:31 PM
Mike

Also make sure you install into the existing Windows directory too and not something like Windows.001 if it offers you to do so

Anon

Guest11
07-25-2008, 05:51 PM
Mike

Also make sure you install into the existing Windows directory too and not something like Windows.001 if it offers you to do so

Anon


Yes precisely!

mikehende
07-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Mike

Also make sure you install into the existing Windows directory too and not something like Windows.001 if it offers you to do so

Anon

Noted, thanks!

mikehende
07-26-2008, 11:06 AM
One more thing, I am not sure exactly which OS she has and I have the Second edition, if she has just the regular version of win 98 and if the above is true about reloading the OS on top of the existing one, would I get the same result or would I have to reload the SE ONLY over an SE system?

Dee369
07-26-2008, 11:13 AM
One more thing, I am not sure exactly which OS she has and I have the Second edition, if she has just the regular version of win 98 and if the above is true about reloading the OS on top of the existing one, would I get the same result or would I have to reload the SE ONLY over an SE system?

AN OTT is exactly that. You have to load the exact same OS over the exact same OS if I'm not mistaken. Otherwise you have to reformat.

steveie85
07-26-2008, 11:28 AM
I am not sure if that is the case with Windows 98. I can't remember the diffrences off hand, other then one is first edition and the other is second edition(I am ver observant lol). I think you can use 98SE to overwrite the files of 98, but don't quote me as I am not sure about it.

Dee369
07-26-2008, 11:30 AM
I am not sure if that is the case with Windows 98. I can't remember the diffrences off hand, other then one is first edition and the other is second edition(I am ver observant lol). I think you can use 98SE to overwrite the files of 98, but don't quote me as I am not sure about it.
You could be right Stevie i didn't think about SE over writing the original files. Mike see if you can find out what OS she has.

mikehende
07-26-2008, 11:38 AM
I am being told this on another forum, what do you guys think? I have to be 100% sure of this as I do not want my friend to lose her programs:


It depends if it's just a 98SE Installation disk or a 98SE Upgrade disk. If it's an installation disk, you can only format and install, however, if it's an Upgrade disk, you can keep your files and settings. For some reason, many devices support 98SE and NOT 95/98...

steveie85
07-26-2008, 11:49 AM
I don't belive that is the case. I belive either one will do the trick. The device part of that quote is partly true for every OS. Some device's for 98SE weren't supported in ME. However back to your problem, I am sure there is an option to overwrite the OS files with a 98/98SE disk. Its been so long since I worked with it, I can't remember.

Guest11
07-26-2008, 04:47 PM
Se version would not work to overinstall over 98 but you could use it to update Win 98 and that would accomplish the same thing, maybe even better.

mikehende
07-27-2008, 10:14 AM
I had a chat with her yesterday and we both decided not to risk it until we get the same programs on cd which she has on the laptop.

Guest11
07-27-2008, 08:54 PM
Mike,
There is no risk as repair or U-pgrade will not remove any programs or data. But do what you like.

mikehende
07-27-2008, 10:02 PM
My main concern here Rich is that I don't wish to be responsible for the friend losing her programs if something goes wrong, if I had ever done this exact win 98 reinstall over the existing OS without formatting before then I would have the confidence to do it.

Guest11
07-27-2008, 11:16 PM
Mike you can tell a format, it uses the word "format" just like partition does. Unless you partition and format, you won't lose anything.

Rob-S
07-27-2008, 11:29 PM
Mike,
If the original problem is a missing driver, why not install the 'missing' driver instead of doing a re-install? What am I missing here???

mikehende
07-28-2008, 10:32 AM
I haven't seen the laptop yet, I am only going by her words, she does not live close to me, I am in Queens and she's way out Long Island, I will be getting the office software [the main software she's worried about] for her soon so I will visit her and attempt all that has been written here now that I will have the softwares on hand.