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dale@fcg
04-14-2006, 09:29 AM
I'll start with a clarifying statement. Since XP requires activation, copies of an xp installation cd are not worth much except for backup purpose- or as I've used them. for several installations simultaneously. When I have several PC's that need xp installed at same time, I use my 'homemade' copies so that I can accomplish the multiple installations with at same time. These generally are pc's that come in with no original cd, but with a coa sticker on the side.

Another factor is that EACH TYPE OF INSTALLATION CD REQUIRES A CERTAIN TYPE OF COA. That is, there is a full retail version, an oem white box version, a proprietary third party version(Compaq, Toshiba, etc- generally recovery discs), and the Upgrade version (from which a full install can be done- just need to insert a win98 or ME cd into drive when prompted).

Of course, each of the above versions have their own branches (sp1, sp2). But the point being made is that to use a 'homemade' copied cd in conjunction with a coa, you need to use the same type of installation cd that the coa came with. In other words, each coa is tied to one of the four types of installation cd: full, upgrade, oem, recovery disk.

I know this because I ran into all kinds of heck trying to use a coa that came from a full install after i happened to use an upgrade install cd- not out of dishonesty (the full install had been paid for years earlier, i just happened to grab the the upgrade cd and use it to do a fresh install). A phone call to MS straightened everything out. Of course, I coulda just used a full version cd to re-install again, but I didn't want to go thru another hour of waiting so I called MS.

So I did an experiment a few days later. I used a full version cd (homemade copy) and full version coa (without activating). I then told the activation utility that I wanted to call MS to activate, which allows for the coa to be changed. But it would not accept an upgrade coa because a full version cd had been used. So I called MS again. Again they straightened it out. I read them the coa I had used, told them the coa I wanted to use, and they gave me back what to put into the blanks below my coa. It then activated.

All of the above was done off of 'homemade' backup copies of XP. (one backup per original cd). The app used to copy the original OS varied from Sonic RecordNow to Nero Express to Roxio (I'm not sure of the exact versions of each). The writers varied: Sony, Lite-on, LG among others.

mylanta
04-14-2006, 10:22 AM
Dale I have recently started copying all cd's for another reason. I had an experience a few years ago with Drive Image 7.0, which used the install cd as a rescue cd as well, where I could not restore an image file because the cd had corrupted. I realized that with such programs, you should make several copies as that can happen to any cd from a lot of use.
But you would think I would learn from that. No such case. I had my Ms Office 2000 Pro cd crap out on an install, which of course will not copy now either, and when I contacted Ms to get a replacement cd, they responded with they only go back 1 program with archives so I am SOL on that one.
Ever look at the price of that antique program? No different than new version and that really hurts. I had never thought to make a copy so unless I run across a client with one that works, which I might well do sometime, I just threw $300+ out the window and that stinks!

PeteF
04-14-2006, 12:29 PM
But you would think I would learn from that. No such case. I had my Ms Office 2000 Pro cd crap out on an install, which of course will not copy now either, and when I contacted Ms to get a replacement cd, they responded with they only go back 1 program with archives so I am SOL on that one.


Rich, which CD went bad?
I may have someone who can help you.

---pete---

mylanta
04-14-2006, 12:32 PM
Pete,
Ms Office 2000 Pro 1st cd
Thanks,
Rich

dale@fcg
04-14-2006, 03:36 PM
Rich,
Did you try Ebay for a replacement cd set?

mylanta
04-14-2006, 04:00 PM
Yep $250 and very few available...

photolady
05-03-2006, 07:45 AM
I thought MS Office Pro only had 1 cd. Mine does. Do you want a copy of that one?

mylanta
05-03-2006, 08:39 AM
I thought MS Office Pro only had 1 cd. Mine does. Do you want a copy of that one?

Ms Office 2000 Pro has 2 cd's PL. If you have the original plasticene case open back under 1st disk.
Well it's resolved as Tony D sent me both disk copies, and even though his was Sp1 version and mine was original, they worked like charms and I'm back in business. Of course one of the first things I did when I saw it work, was make 2 more copies of each! Any cd you use often, you need to do that with and I know I did, but question was where I put the copies!!!!

PeteF
05-03-2006, 12:10 PM
Ms Office 2000 Pro has 2 cd's PL. If you have the original plasticene case open back under 1st disk.
Well it's resolved as Tony D sent me both disk copies, and even though his was Sp1 version and mine was original, they worked like charms and I'm back in business.

Rich,
Ok, I'm glad you got that solved.
The person I thought could help you out, never responded
to my post on another BBS. Maybe she never saw my post
but I also tried to Email her and she had that blocked.
Nice try, but no cigar! :hat:

mylanta
05-03-2006, 01:08 PM
Rich,
Ok, I'm glad you got that solved.
The person I thought could help you out, never responded
to my post on another BBS. Maybe she never saw my post
but I also tried to Email her and she had that blocked.
Nice try, but no cigar! :hat:

Yep thanks Pete, I thought I sent you a PM that Tony was sending it to me. If I didn't sorry for that.

photolady
05-03-2006, 01:46 PM
Um, still, Rich. My Office 2000 Pro only has one disk. I am not sure what version mine is, and it's not in the case it came in. May be someone prior to me starting work here figured out how to merge the two disks!? I cannot say.

Dan18960
05-03-2006, 02:19 PM
MS Office Pro 2000 second cd is for the Business Management software. All the programs (Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint, and Outlook) are on cd-1.

In fact if you try to load disk 2 before disk one it stops you.

mylanta
05-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Dan and PL,
Cd 2 is for Small Business Tools and clipart and very possibly someone discarded the second or"filed it" PL as unecessary for your shop purposes.

photolady
05-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Ok I see. Thanks for the explanation.

I'm glad you got your problem fixed though.