dbarrow
05-22-2006, 08:28 AM
From the talk about Vista user access controls, I can easily see where it will drive users stark raving mad!
XP can already do that ... ten fold!
Now that Asus has been kind enough to finally replace the mobo for daughter's machine (2 RMAs and 3 months later)
I have it running again and started working on some of the finer details. She decided to move back here again until she finishes her studies (moan) so I started integrating her machine into the network for backup and file access.
As her machine was never part of the network, her user was not a user on the other machines. When I needed network access, I just changed to my user on that machine, common to all of them.
I have a few shares in various locations on the other machines for backups and a place to duplicate her critical stuff (besides the external HD).
I added her user to the other machines/shares.
I could see them but, access denied.
The share was changed to Everyone with full access.
Still can see but no can touch.
Change to my user, no problem.
Change to Administrator, no problem.
Added her user to each share.
Still same. Access Denied.
Spend a couple hours piddling with this ... starting to really go nuts ... changing and verifying permissions, reboots, firewall on/off. Still can't get it and can't figure out why.
Frustration level approaching melt down and I'm into my 6th gin and tonic.
Suddenly, a faint brain fart about something I recall from the MSKB....
Her user isn't passworded! It was, but I had left that out when I restored from an older image on the first RMA.
Added the PW to her user on all the machines.....
Now it works!
NTFS permissions require a USER and a PW!
The Everyone permission still requires a user with pw on each machine/share.
Of course, it's not the best security to include the Everyone or Administrators group permission on a share. Now I have to go back to each share and adjust them for the specific users only ... and the advanced properties for each with read/write permissions.
Considering this took me the better part of an afternoon ... and I understand it... I can just imagine the grief that will hit with Vista and the default user permissions of a limited or restricted user. That is going to drive average users totally bonkers!
XP can already do that ... ten fold!
Now that Asus has been kind enough to finally replace the mobo for daughter's machine (2 RMAs and 3 months later)
I have it running again and started working on some of the finer details. She decided to move back here again until she finishes her studies (moan) so I started integrating her machine into the network for backup and file access.
As her machine was never part of the network, her user was not a user on the other machines. When I needed network access, I just changed to my user on that machine, common to all of them.
I have a few shares in various locations on the other machines for backups and a place to duplicate her critical stuff (besides the external HD).
I added her user to the other machines/shares.
I could see them but, access denied.
The share was changed to Everyone with full access.
Still can see but no can touch.
Change to my user, no problem.
Change to Administrator, no problem.
Added her user to each share.
Still same. Access Denied.
Spend a couple hours piddling with this ... starting to really go nuts ... changing and verifying permissions, reboots, firewall on/off. Still can't get it and can't figure out why.
Frustration level approaching melt down and I'm into my 6th gin and tonic.
Suddenly, a faint brain fart about something I recall from the MSKB....
Her user isn't passworded! It was, but I had left that out when I restored from an older image on the first RMA.
Added the PW to her user on all the machines.....
Now it works!
NTFS permissions require a USER and a PW!
The Everyone permission still requires a user with pw on each machine/share.
Of course, it's not the best security to include the Everyone or Administrators group permission on a share. Now I have to go back to each share and adjust them for the specific users only ... and the advanced properties for each with read/write permissions.
Considering this took me the better part of an afternoon ... and I understand it... I can just imagine the grief that will hit with Vista and the default user permissions of a limited or restricted user. That is going to drive average users totally bonkers!