Do IDE to SATA cables work that well

[photolady]

See link:

http://www.cwol.com/serial-ata/serial-ata-ide-converter.htm

Have customers computer with one of these installed and was just wondering what if anything you guys think of this idea. Do they cause problems? Do they speed up data transfer at all? And if I missed any questions, please feel free to elaborate. :D

[mylanta]

I cannot see how they would cause problems, but I also cannot see how there would be any improvement either in transfer rate or overall performance.

[photolady]

I was thinking the same thing on data transfer. The only reason I asked was the computer came in and customer said it wasn't working right. well, it turns out this friend built it for him and didn't install motherboard drivers......:rolleyes:

I did a repair also, and will install mobo drivers tomorrow.

Another reason for using this instead of IDE cables would be to free up an IDE connector. Though I also noticed he isn't using one of the IDE connector.

[Dan18960]

Interesting concept - but the data rate is governed by the hard drive controller not the data transfer method (cable connection).

An IDE drive 100 will still transfer data at the 100 level since that is the bases of the controller card and the rpm speed of the platens.

[photolady]

Knew that and that is why I asked the customer why this builder set his computer up. I told him that it would not transfer data any faster with the adapter. That is when he told me about what is written below.

It seems when the builder was assembling this, he couldn't get but one IDE controller to work, so he did the only thing he could think of and that was adding the adapter. This would have been a simple fix, if, he had checked that both IDE were enabled in the BIOS. I changed that and both are working now.

[mylanta]

Oh for God's sake, that is almost criminal...and really stupid on builder's part

[photolady]

I seem to be getting a lot of self built, help built computers that aren't built or setup right, for some reason every day joe's think they can build a computer....then they end up in my shop. Good for me, so I say, keep building........you Id10t's. ;)

[mylanta]

Amen take the money...that's what I say about those who want to use Norton, I can use the business...put on 2 versions!

[casey]

If you have any versions laying around don't hesitate to send them to me, they'll get put to good use...

Oh and I ran Bitdefender the other night and it actually found three viruses on the Norton machine. At first I was speechless until I saw that bitdefender wasn't able to disinfect the file or whatever else it does. So I looked at the file figuring I would manually delete them. Can you imagine my surprise when the file said Symantec/norton/ quarantine. In other words it found files that Norton had quarantined. I guess your saying see that it really works but my surprise was when I went into Norton's quarantine and saw that there were 10 viruses there. In other words Bitdefender found 3 of the 10 viruses that were there. So after spending two hours waiting for Bitdefender to get done I then ran the active scan. That found 39 of something that just said adware.
The first one I ran was Housecall and that didn't find anything. Funny how that works..

[Pi rules]

Like Rich said, I don't know why they would be necessary (except in the circumstance of newer Intel-based motherboards only having 1 PATA port) :(

casey: ActiveScan is more based on Spyware/Adware removal than the others, and AV programs & scans often find quarantined files as "infected". If you had Bit Defender and did a scan with Norton (over a network, hopefully not both installed at once) then it would probably find Bit Defender's quarantined files "infected". Bit Defender's AV module is one of the best with regards to detection rates, up with Nod32.

[photolady]

except in the circumstance of newer Intel-based motherboards only having 1 PATA port Yes, Pi that occurred to me at first, until I saw the naked IDE controller. And this is an AMD board.

[kerremelk]

hi

I see absolutely no good reason to use such a convertor.
When the BIOS has problems deciding wether to boot from a SATA or a PATA on the onboard IDE, in a system that has both types of disks present, then the IDE should better be gotten out. It is usually an older drive that was salvaged and put in the new box, and some BIOSes do at times forget they should boot from the SATA.. :(

the convertor costs as much as the older drive is worth.
27 plus shipping could be used towards paying some reasonable SATA drive.
the old drive can be sold for use in an older type machine..

some people have PCI hotrod cards (IDE sometimes with RAID) they no longer use, and if I absolutely must add IDE to a system that had only one IDE port, I'd plug such a hotrod in it.

c'y all

[photolady]

I didn't see any reason to use the converter either since there are two IDE controllers on the motherboard. I was just questioning if they worked, for future referrence.

[photolady]

I was wrong. (better make note of that because you guys won't see me say that too often) :D It was not an adapter, it just looked like one. It was a combination power/SATA controller plug. And as I stated in the my other post about removing heatsink, he had this plugged in and the standard white molex. :rolleyes: The drive was getting power from the motherboard for the drive with this combination duo, so the standard Molex wasn't needed.