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PeteF
06-26-2006, 04:51 AM
How many times have you downloaded software to your Desktop
or to My Documents and lost track of it or deleted it when done
installing it? Did you ever install a new version of software and
wish you had not, but you lost the installer for the previous
version, so you got stuck with the new version?

Here's a tip that will help to avoid the above frustrations.

TIP: Save all your downloaded software installers to a new folder
named... \My Downloads and create a separate folder for each
one you download. Go the extra mile to create a document file
that describes what the download is. Below is the procedure.

Initial setup

* In WinXP, before downloading anything, create a new folder under..
\Shared Documents and name it.. \My Downloads

- START -> My Documents
- Under "Other Places", click.. Shared Documents
- In the white space, right-click -> New -> Folder
- Name it... My Documents
- ENTER

Note: Reason why it's best to store all your downloads to the \Shared Documents
folder and NOT under \My Documents, is because it gives you the freedom
to delete individual user accounts in the future without losing your downloads.
It also serves to keep them out of your way.


Downloading

1.) Upon downloading a particular program, most browsers offer an
option to.. Save As, where you specify the destination folder to DL to.
After selecting the Save As option, click the "save in" dropdown and
select.. Shared Documents, then double-click.. My Downloads
to open that folder.

2.) In the white space under the My Downloads folder, right-click and
select.. New -> Folder

3.) Name the folder to describe the program and version you are
about to download. (ex. Firefox_v1-5-0-4)

4.) As the file is downloading use your browser to locate some text
that breifly describes what the program is. Use your mouse to
highlight the text and hit CTRL+C to copy it. When your download
is compete, most browsers offer an option to view the location of
the downloaded file. Take that option and you will see the downloaded
file. Right-click in the white space and select.. New -> Text Document.
Always name the document.. ThisIs.txt or something similar, but just
be consistent with all your future downloads.

5.) Double-click on.. ThisIs.txt and hit CTRL+V to paste in the description
you captured in the step above. Add any other important info that might
be useful if you had to refer to this at a future date. For example, is it
a FREE version, or a 30 day trial. Save the text document when done.

6.) Ok, now your download is archived and documented for future use
if you ever need to re-install it or pass it one to someone else.
You may now double click the installer file and proceed to install the
application. Just understand that this is the "installer" that typically
copies all the program files to a totally different folder (typically
a new folder under \Program Files) and after the installation process,
the file you downloaded remains the same as when you downloaded it.
This means you can uninstall the application from Windows and reinstall
it again using the installer.

Note: Another advantage of saving all your downloaded installers
to individual folders under... \Shared Documents\My Downloads\ ,
is that you can burn them all to CD after you've accumulated quite
a few. This will come in real handy if you ever need to reinstall all
your programs after you reinstall windows due to a system crash
or had drive replacement.

PS: Having all your downloaded installers nicely organized and archived
is extremely benificial because, so many times now, the newer versions
of programs are worse than the older versions as programs become
bloated with useless features and anti-piracy techniques when the
developers attempt to squeeze out more profits from their previously
well developed and mature program. Many times you will want to go
back a version because the new one you just installed is actually
worse.

---pete---

dbarrow
06-26-2006, 01:42 PM
Pete, good point! Something I have done for years.
All downloading in any of my programs or browsers is set to plant the dl in DOWNLOADS folder as a default.

If you don't create a folder and point ALL programs to it as default, they can sometimes spray your dl all over the place and you can't find it as you don't know the name of it.

The second problem, "What did I ever do with that installer?", is another big one!
How many times have you gotten a great free utility program and months later, should you need it again somewhere else, a newer version has gone paid?
Or, Murphy's Law, you fubar the program and need to re-install it but can't remember where you got it...

UNDER my DOWNLOADS folder tree, I also have
UNZIP and STORE folders.
When you have to unzip an archive dl before using it, extract it to your UNZIP folder so you don't lose it again.
Once you have installed it, move the original package to STORE and lable it with a name you can remember
(or right click the file, go to PROPERTIES\SUMMARY and write a description)
This is important as some of these dls have no clear name to associate it with whatever program or function it is and a month or two from now you won't remember what that strange file is or where it came from.

I also keep a sub folders under STORE by catagory like UTIL, VID, SOUND, etc. to keep these originals.

Once I am done installing something, if it has created a folder of its' own as in a named program, I also COPY the original installer package to that root folder as well as any txt or readme files that have the LINK to the source of the program. If there is none, create a LINK.txt containing the link.

The only problem with this is that an uninstall sometimes wipes the complete folder containing the program and your copy of the installer.

Although this is much duplication of effort, over the years I have found much reason to do this.
The program goes from free to paid.
The program or source vanishes.
You need to locate it and copy it to another machine.
You mess it up and need to re-install it.
You mess it up and have trouble uninstalling it.
You want to check the source for an updated version and can't remember where you got it.

I can't count the number if times I failed to do this and spent hours searching out some rarely used little freebie utility I suddenly found a need for!
Then, there are those strange files sitting in DOWNLOAD that you never got around to installing and can't figure out what they are!

writeco
06-26-2006, 04:15 PM
I would add one additional step. Maintain a log as to when you created a systems backup and record every new piece of software you have installed. This way, if you have to revert to restore image, you will know exactly what has to be re-loaded.

mylanta
06-26-2006, 04:51 PM
Those are all good thoughts but let me suggest two more.
1) Always right click and rename the setup to something you will recognize
2) I keep a downloads folder with 3 breakdowns:
Programs
Updates
Drivers
and I download into My Downloads folder to later drag and drop into one of the Downloads sub folders, when I have more time

Dan18960
06-26-2006, 05:01 PM
I would add one additional step. Maintain a log as to when you created a systems backup and record every new piece of software you have installed. This way, if you have to revert to restore image, you will know exactly what has to be re-loaded.

Joe,

YOUR way too organized ! :third:

Someday I am going to be just like Joe! :)

PeteF
06-26-2006, 05:52 PM
UNDER my DOWNLOADS folder tree, I also have
UNZIP and STORE folders.
When you have to unzip an archive dl before using it, extract it to your UNZIP folder so you don't lose it again.

If the download file is a *.zip, I'll double click it to view the files within,
and then I simply copy them all to the same folder where the *.zip file is.

I found this technique to be very useful when I have all my downloads
burned to CD. It enables me to install direct from the CD.

---pete---

PeteF
06-26-2006, 06:01 PM
[QUOTE=mylanta]Those are all good thoughts but let me suggest two more.
1) Always right click and rename the setup to something you will recognize
2) I keep a downloads folder with 3 breakdowns:
Programs
Updates
Drivers
------
I agree, that is an excellent choice of categories to begin with.

When it comes to organizing things into folders, I often encourage
people to not get too carried away at first. For organization, there's
nothing worse than having a bunch of folders with only one or two
or zero items in them.

I tell them to begin by allowing the files to accumulate into one folder,
then after they have 20 or more items, they can better judge how to
sort them out and what the sub-folders should be.

---pete---

dbarrow
06-26-2006, 06:52 PM
The biggest thing is changing the file name to something you can figure out. I just looked at 10 items sitting in my Downloads and six of them, I have no idea what they are!

PeteF
06-26-2006, 07:03 PM
The biggest thing is changing the file name to something you can figure out. I just looked at 10 items sitting in my Downloads and six of them, I have no idea what they are!

A big part of my suggestion is to create a unique folder for each download.
In that folder, I often add my own ThisIs.txt file to describe what the file is
and any other important info that would be useful a year or so down the
road if I ever had to revisit the download. Most times I can create that
info file before the download completes. ---pete---