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Dan18960
11-10-2006, 08:29 AM
Well, since I have product key codes for several versions I thought I would check out the differences - most of you are using the Ultimate testing but there are definitely differences between that "top" of the line Vista and the others.

Ultimate - you get the complete package. Nothing is left out of this install. But at the "price" of $399, I doubt that people will be rushing to the door to buy it. Also, this is NOT an upgrade path. You have to do a complete installation from scratch, it will not upgrade from XP Home or XP Professional.

Business - this is an upgrade for XP Professional ONLY. For the first time Microsoft has made the difference between a "home" system and a Business system. Games are NOT loaded (so if you want Solitaire you will have to get permission from the IT department LOL). This also loads the PC Tablet drivers and added network IPv4 and IPv6 TCPIP connectivity for a clean 1g connection (now is the time to update your switches to the 1000/100/10 models - they are finally price acceptable). Windows Defender is buried in this version so deep that just turning off the service gets you errors all over the place. The control panel is a pain since it really doesn't let you make the changes that are easy in the Ultimate version. This is truly a business package and wants to work ONLY in a business server environment. I don't know how it is going to perform in a peer to peer environment over the long term. Sharing folders is very defined. You have so many levels of security to jump through.

Home Premium - this is the upgrade path from XP Home. Gives you all the utilities of XP Home and Media Center. This is going to be the closes you get to the XP Home you are familiar with. Parental controls are built in for parents to setup - seems M$ wants to slap the parental control software packages out there. Sharing folders in this version is a lot easier - it seems to be based on just a home network and not very secure for a small business. Security is not anywhere near as complete as the Business version.

Home Basic - PASS ON THIS ONE! What a laughable product. This is probably going to be the GEM of OEM's. It is the cheapest of the versions and shows in the utilites. You are basically getting an Operating System and that is it. You get the regular bennies of XP Home but the Media Center is more skeleton than functional. This version will let you connect to the internet, get email, and do some word processing - but if you want a "real" operating system - M$ is forcing you to move to the Premium version (read that as MORE money).

Overall, all the versions contain IE 7, Windows Mail, and new folder graphics. Control Panel is different in it's allowing functions in each.

IF you are happy with XP - I would suggest holding off on this version in all cases until M$ gets that first service pack or as they now call them Release Candidate (that should be about 9 months to a year after retail release).

PeteF
11-11-2006, 12:49 AM
Vista Prices per version
(Listed below in order, lowest price to highest price)

All prices listed below were taken directly from this Microsoft site.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/home_basic.mspx


Vista Starter:
*Note: Windows Vista Starter is not currently scheduled
to be available in the United States, Canada, the
European Union, Australia, New Zealand, or other
high income markets as defined by the World Bank.


Vista Home Basic:
Suggested retail price for full package product, $199.00 USD.
Suggested upgrade retail price, $99.95 USD.


Vista Home Premium
Suggested retail price for full package product, $239.00 USD.
Suggested upgrade retail price, $159.00 USD.


Vista Business:
Suggested retail price for full package product, $299.00
USD. Suggested upgrade retail price, $199.00 USD.


Vista Ultimate:
Suggested retail price for full package product, $399.00 USD.
Suggested upgrade retail price, $259.00 USD.


Vista Enterprise:
The Windows Vista Enterprise edition is only available
to Microsoft Volume License customers, it is not available
for retail purchase.

---pete---

Tortanick
11-11-2006, 05:33 AM
I'll stick with XP. The WINE guys are considering backporting DirectX 10 so I'm set :)

jcampi
11-11-2006, 06:59 AM
Gee Tortanick, I thought you were a Linux guy.

writeco
11-11-2006, 07:14 AM
Can you upgrade to Home Premium from XP Pro?

I remember upgrading from ME to XP Home and, after 9 months, the problems got so bad that I had to do a clean install together re-installing apps, a full week effort. Do we expect the upgrade to Vista to be any better or are we looking at another clean install and apps reload?

Dan18960
11-11-2006, 07:19 AM
Joe,

Unfortunately the beta has the upgrade disabled (at least on the current version I have).

What I have noticed is that while this is suppose to be a "NEW" file format - my XP Pro can read the Vista hard drive directories and files. So it sounds like some backward legacy is still there.

Pete,

This may surprise you but M$ HAS put a limit on the Enterprise activations! I guess with the Volume license versions that found their way to the hackers with XP, M$ decided that the only way to limit the Volume licensing is to limit the activations. This apparently is not true of some of the retail versions (according to recent ZDnet articles).

Guest110
11-11-2006, 07:28 AM
Can you upgrade to Home Premium from XP Pro?

I remember upgrading from ME to XP Home and, after 9 months, the problems got so bad that I had to do a clean install together re-installing apps, a full week effort. Do we expect the upgrade to Vista to be any better or are we looking at another clean install and apps reload?
just have my toolkit handy

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/blackmirror111/computer_trouble_shooting.jpg

writeco
11-11-2006, 09:46 AM
Dan,

My question about upgrading was that, even with Windows XP, you could upgrade from Windows ME. But participants on this BBS complained about problems until they did a full install, myself included. Is anyone experimenting with taking the upgrade path to see what problems are encountered?

Tortanick
11-11-2006, 11:16 AM
Gee Tortanick, I thought you were a Linux guy.

Only when games arn't concerned. Although being a Linux guy is how I know of WINE and their possible backport :)

PeteF
11-11-2006, 11:07 PM
Pete,
This may surprise you but M$ HAS put a limit on the Enterprise activations! I guess with the Volume license versions that found their way to the hackers with XP, M$ decided that the only way to limit the Volume licensing is to limit the activations.

Dan,
What you say makes sense. Recently, I was speaking to MS about
purchasing some WinXP Pro volume licenses and he told me I can't
get the "full version" on volume licenses anymore. He said they
didn't want a lot of those out there, so I could only get the
"upgrade version" on volume licensing.

---pete---

Dan18960
11-12-2006, 09:45 AM
Dan,

My question about upgrading was that, even with Windows XP, you could upgrade from Windows ME. But participants on this BBS complained about problems until they did a full install, myself included. Is anyone experimenting with taking the upgrade path to see what problems are encountered?

Joe,

It is hard to answer an upgrade path except to point you to the M$ Knowledgebase (and wish you on happy hunting) since as I noted - the upgrade option is not an option in the beta version.

mylanta
11-12-2006, 12:23 PM
The problme with upgrading from 9X versions of Windows was more than likely the inability of the upgrade to split out the Windows functions into two core folders as 2000 and XP have and that most certainly will not be an issue in Vista, but again who knows as Dan suggests, because the beta versions will not upgrade.

Tortanick
11-12-2006, 02:14 PM
IMO I don't see what the big deal about upgradeing is.

I'd keep a few folders of files but start fresh, like spring cleaning

mylanta
11-12-2006, 03:02 PM
The advantage to upgrading is you keep the wrapper of earlier OS which in some cases allows older hardware to function whereas it never would in a Clean Install.

Tortanick
11-12-2006, 04:16 PM
Ah, I've allways been a very late adopter of new Windows versions, I genrally wait untill I need a new computer then get both at once.